Monday, January 29, 2007

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Following is the supporting work for the Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act. It is fluid, in present time and will continue to be added to. The evidence for the following argument is simply overwhelming. In my opinion regarding this matter, silence is no longer an option. Neither is apathy, nor turning an eye that has been enlightened. I have presented my case in a rather whimsy, poetic musing manner. It is my style of writing. It is from years of writing poetry. Irregardless the facts remain the same. I am a poet at heart and if I were not tone deaf I would be a singer in a rock- n roll- band.
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Let me begin by stating I know this is a political non-starter. (as of course we still own slaves, women can't vote and everyone sitting at the back of the bus has a hell of a suntan)
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My aim with the Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act is it to be a consciousness starter, to factually expose religious handbook backed zealotry and by their own words, hold them accountable where it counts most, in the pocket book. Those who are using prehistoric religious laws for propaganda, extremist views and terrorists activity. At first glance one may say I am attempting to censor religious freedom, nothing could be farther from the truth. I listened to a TV Evangelical preacher adamantly state he if he could, would kill all the gays as he would be doing God's work as it is demanded in the Bible. This horrific mess of a war were in is certainly backed by religious ideology and by all means demanded within the both the Bible and the Quran. Religiously we needed no excuse what so ever to go to war, except that Biblical God and Allah demand it. Osama Bin Laden striking the Twin Towers that horrific New York morning on 9/11 had the blessings of the The Holy Quran. To put it a little more blunt, was demanded by The Holy Quran. That is Allahs wrath penned for the unbeliever and it is penned in text after text after text.
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Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act
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petition that all churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, religious organizations, schools, universities, all entities unburdened by the Weight of Taxation, to retain the privilege Free From Taxation must expurgate (cleanse) from Religious Worship Handbooks, all text which Condone, Advocate and Command illegal activity according to the laws of the United States of America.
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no longer allow our elected officials financially aiding favor to Religious Institutions whose Worship Texts call for actionable abhorrent Holy Acts of Service. Those which demand violence and those which induce the yoke of suppression on ourselves and future generations. Those activities of Holiness creating the Global War of Terror.
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All Religious Worship Text including, but not limited to: Hate crimes - Human Rights Violations - Sexual Crimes - Censorship of Speech and Religion - Child Abuse - Animal Cruelty - Suppression and Cruelty of Women - Rape - Incest - Slavery - Terrorism - Torture - Genocide - War Crimes and all Crimes Against Humanity.
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Precepts of terror, disguised as Holy Worship to Gods, shall no longer reign as Platforms for Financial Privilege. Religious Institutions whose Worship Text do not uphold the Laws of the Land shall no longer be free from the Tax of the Land of the United States of America.

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example to our ourselves and our children, petitioning before Congress and beacon to the world upholding America in the true light of Spiritual Liberty and the true light of Justice and Freedom. Offering footprints, upholding America in Authentic Family Values. Today this step in history demonstrating Freedom of Speech and Freedom of and from Religion - yet giving no favor, neither financially awarding special privilege, whose Religious Worship Texts, Condone, Advocate and Command violation of the laws of the United States of America.
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please sign petition at- http://www.PetitionOnline.com/patriots/
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I have also addressed the current patriotic blasphemy that our Forefathers founded America sitting in either Jerry Falwell's or Pat Robertson's church pew. Both who are trampling on our Forefather's graves to promote their religious extremist agendas.. "As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; .."The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation." (Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams ) Rest assured, as this mindset is prominent everywhere on the news cast television and radio shows today. I have personally written whenever I hear this, sending an eye-opener and wake-up call. This is intolerable to me and I am bloody well angry our children are being subject to these blatant lies. They can put together a cowardly agenda on their own spineless composite and quit trampling on the graves of America's Founding Father's. I have openly stated, I will publicly debate them on this anywhere, anyplace, anytime. If anyone can open the door for me, please let me know jefferson.paine1776@yahoo.com Kindly tell them to bring a shovel to hide from the public humiliation I will put them through. As strongly as I feel about my religious non convictions they pale in comparison to the blasphemy of our Founding Father's.
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Again, one may think I am attempting to censor religious freedom and free speech, nothing could be farther from the truth. What I am suggesting is taxing religious organizations whose worship handbooks promote criminal activity. Nothing more , nothing less. I am not the alone in my views. Those I believe who would be in agreement with me I have quoted from, each one publicly outspoken in their speech and written work in regards to their views on Christianity and Biblical God. These are people I have chosen because of familiarity to the reader. My historic support for what I am doing both Nationally and Internationally is stunningly overwhelming.
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Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, Mohandas K Gandhi, John Quincy Adams, Patrick Henry, Mark Twain, Emily Dickinson, Benjamin Franklin, Noam Chompsky,William Shakespeare, James Madison, Robert G. Ingersoll, Harry S. Truman, Abraham Lincoln, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Susan B. Anthony, Ulysses S Grant, Victor Hugo, George Bernard Shaw, Katherine Hepburn,Walt Whitman, George Washington and of course, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine in whose honor I have dedicated this work.
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Personally I feel each one of these folk if were able would sign this petition and support me in my work. I am both inspired and comforted by the fact that they have lit the flame and I am simply carrying the torch. I have never been noted as a timid person. Neither have I been known to mince words. Now is the time to quit reading if this is what you are expecting.
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I am fully aware of the religious blasphemy I have engaged in. If this is something you feel your sins will not be forgiven for exposing yourself to, now is the time to turn back. I won't be there to argue for you at Saint Peter's Gate. Neither will I be welcomed wherever it is, that is the abode of Allah. I live here on Planet Earth. I intend to die here on Planet Earth. With that said, whatever happens to me afterwards, I choose to fore go both of the prior mentioned above options. Everything I have written here I take complete responsibility. I know what has been said and it is me and only me to be held accountable.
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I am a pacifist. I believe in peace. I believe that every situation that is pursued in a violent manner can be solved in an equal and opposite manner. This to me is the law of the universe. This law I believe human can access if so desired.
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With your help, I fully intend for the Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act to sit on the desk of President George W. Bush. In my opinion, If he intends to fight a Global War On Terror he should begin by not creating a Global War Of Terror. Personally I believe the President will sign into law a bill that encompasses the statements of the petiton. Quite frankly I believe this because he has the balls to do it. He must as he does, look terror straight between the eyes -He must as he is not noted to read - read this : Mr President for centuries terror has stood on one postulate and that postulate can be expressed in two words: Religious Ideology. Religious handbooks were written by man and printed by man. In my opinion, if God would have had a hand in it , he would have by-passed this step. they would be as nature, as nature is.
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Historically, what I am proposing will stand toe to toe with freeing the slaves, women's right to vote and the liberation of the civil rights movement. Which by the way, to achieve these milestones of personal liberty, in regard to slavery and women's rights, those that have made this possible had to overcome centuries of Religious Biblical ideology. They will tell you themselves. In this case, not only will President George W. Bush prove that he can drop bombs on the terror of geography, he will prove he can drop bombs on the terror of religious ideology. I urge him to consult his Earthly Father on the wisdom of this decision and leave his consultations with his Heavenly Father for another day of killing.
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George Bush does not have to be smart to be great. On the morning of 9/11 the children he stood in front of reading My Pet Goat -would very easily understand the premise of my proposal. If there is any doubt, I will gladly stand in that classroom and present it to the current children of the class and afterwards you can give them a written quiz.
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His God told him to drop bombs on terrorist Iraq "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them." (George W. Bush according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa, June, 2003), quoted from Arnon Regular, "'Road map is a life saver for us,' PM Abbas tells Hamas" (Haaretz.com: June 27, 2003), quoted from EvilOz (The Iterative Record)
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My God has told me to tell him to drop bombs on terrorist religious ideology. He has opened the door to place himself in a very unique place in history. In The War On Terror , one bomb cannot be dropped with out the other. He can be, if he so chooses, as he was in the aftermath of 9/11 - internationally loved. Those that will hate him are those who hated him then and they are the ones who are standing in the way of true democracy and freedom now.
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I have e-mailed President George W. Bush personally via The White House the Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act. As he is a busy man the introduction was short, to the point and as follows: Title _ (New World Terror Solutions)
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If King George doesn't sign it the first President will....
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Read petition and signature comments.
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Sign it.
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Leave a strong statement.
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Send this message to another.
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Know you have made history.
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Friday, January 19, 2007

Family Values 101 ~ getting down to the basics

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* "The most heinous and the most cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives." (Mohandas K Gandhi, Young India, July 7, 1950, quoted from Laird Wilcox, ed., ("The Degeneration of Belief)
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"The mind that becomes soiled in youth can never again be washed clean; I know this by my own experience, and to this day I cherish an unappeasable bitterness against the unfaithful guardians of my young life, who not only permitted but compelled me to read an unexpurgated Bible through before I was 15 years old. None can do that and ever draw a clean sweet breath again this side of the grave." (Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain), letter to a librarian, from his Autobiography)
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... firmly protects freedom of speech and freedom of and from religion, which must continue to remain absolutely grounded, unfettered and untouched, but impose we must, restraints on the privilege of freedom from taxation.
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*Religious entities of many faiths are privileged with freedom from taxation yet their public worship handbooks are overtly riddled with demands of criminal activity. We cannot, in our truth, in our liberty, in our justice, perpetuate ourselves in the elimination of tyranny and the instillation of liberty; when even now is given financial favor and public embrace to that which we as a nation have fought so valiantly to abolish.
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*"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.-- (Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82 )
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Precepts of terror shall no longer reign as platforms of privilege. Religious institutions whose religious teaching handbooks, do not uphold the laws of the land shall no longer be free from the tax of the land.
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Churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, religious organizations, universities, all entities privileged from freedom of taxation must expurgate from their public handbooks all text which condone, advocate and command illegal activity according to the laws of The United States of America. *
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We must example unto our children, a lighthouse unto the world, upholding our great nation and embark boldly upon the paths, to face, even now the fields of killing. Those of us with the patience of long-suffering are patient no more. We are a people of honor, a people to uphold civility, equality, human rights and dignity.
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"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind and for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. We scarcely meet with anything, a few phrases excepted, but what deserves either our abhorrence or our contempt, " ( Thomas Paine The Age of Reason, 1794-1795. From Gorton Carruth and Eugene Ehrlich, eds., The Harper Book of American Quotations, New York: Harper & Row, 1988, p. 494 )

*Unfetter we shall, the chains of our ancestors, justice we shall, unto to our dead, unloosen we, this misery of matter where answer we, heed the call to brazenly demonstrate spiritual liberty. From we, shall be no favor, from we no privilege, no longer shall those be free of taxation whose very Gods utter unto those who worship them, the most savage of acts, the most abhorrent of cruelties, the most vicious atrocities, depravities, perversions of abomination where even would shudder, that which is evil, to tread upon these paths, where tortured are the footprints of the innocent and bloodied are the hands of the Gods.

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"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish [Muslim], appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who believe otherwise; they have the same right to their belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794-1795. From Paul Blanshard, ed., Classics of Free Thought, Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books, 1977, pp. 134-135.)"

*"It is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere [in the propagation of religious teachings] when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order." (Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:302, Papers 2:546 )

*The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. (Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814)

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Terror From the Pulpits

.. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. (The Holy Quran , 8.12)
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* * " .. because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up." (The Holy Bible, 2Kings 15:16)
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* * ..and destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (The Holy Bible, 1Samuel 15:3)
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*"And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: (The Holy Bible, Deuteronomy 2:33)

*And such is the punishment of your Lord when He punishes the towns while they are unjust; surely His punishment is painful, severe. (The Holy Quran 11.102:)

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*If I were to choose among these sacred texts, and write them in a small note and hand them to the airline stewardess as a tip for bringing my beer, what do you think would happen? If I were to mail these scared text to my local judges ~ those in congress ~ or perhaps within a Hallmark card to either President George Bush, or Osama Bin Laden, what do you think would happen? What if I were to paste a few particular holy ones on the local Mosque or on the Chapel steps?
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* *The day on which they shall be driven away to the fire of hell with violence. (The holy Quran, 52.13)

*"The Lord is a man of war the LORD is his name ." (The Holy Bible, Exodus 15:3)

*" .. and there shall be nations whom We will afford provisions, then a painful punishment from Us shall afflict them." (The Holy Quran, 11.48:)

*"He that sacrificed unto any God, save unto the LORD only he shall be utterly destroyed"(The Holy Bible, Exodus 22:20)

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"And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise" (The Holy Quran, 5.38:)
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(The Holy Bible, Leviticus 26:29)
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*"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (The Holy Quran, (9.37)

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I ask you why should anything happen when I can quietly sit in a church pew, or humbly with bowed head on my knees in a Mosque and contemplate that stewardess, contemplate those judges, contemplate congress, contemplate Bin Laden or the President.
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"They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs. " (The Holy Bible, Deuteronomy 32:24 - 25)
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"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, (The Holy Quran )
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I can be there in my house of worship, where financial favor is given in the United States, worshiping The Holy Bible or The Holy Quran, simultaneously weighing the eternal salvation of my soul against the murderous acts condoned, advocated and demanded of me by my God.
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"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (The Holy Quran 9:27)
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*"Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where is the receiver? where is he that counted the towers? " (The Holy Bible, Isaiah 33:18)
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Poison in the Pews

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I have seen over history the struggle of caste systems ~ the horrors of slavery, impoverishment, the neglect of entire embodiments of human, quartered off and as Pat Robertson says given"genocide from God with love," the oppression of women and the abuse of children. History is stained with the bloodied parchment of the loving words of God.

*"Those who are niggardly and bid people to be niggardly and hide what Allah has given them out of His grace; and We have prepared for the unbelievers a disgraceful chastisement.(As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, " (The Holy Quran 4:37)

*The hatred in The Holy Quran and The Holy Bible is abominable. They both say the they are written by the one and only God. God is the Word and they do what they do best, violently divide our human family.

*They attempt to create superiority with ties to invisibility. It would be fine if this were fantasy. But it is not ~ it is the war of the world.

*The Churches and Mosques are filled with absolutely wonderful human beings, Muslims, Christians and those of non denomination. I only wish they could throw their handbooks of isolation and the chosen ones, fear mongering, and violence away and look at the human heart of the human family.

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"To charge the commission of things upon the Almighty, which, in their own nature, and by every rule of moral justice, are crimes, as all assassination is, and more especially the assassination of infants, is matter of serious concern. The Bible tells us, that those assassinations were done by the express command of God. To believe, therefore, the Bible to be true, we must unbelieve all our belief in the moral justice of God; for wherein could crying or smiling infants offend? And to read the Bible without horror, we must undo every thing that is tender, sympathizing, and benevolent in the heart of man." ( Thomas Paine - The Age of Reason , 1794-1795 )
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I respect all religious beliefs and non-religious beliefs as long as they do not impose violence and oppression, as long as they treat children well and give women the utmost respect. This is my simple philosophy. * In between my own studies and the works of many great men and women I have slowly but surely drawn some frank conclusions. * These premises of terror and abhorrent crimes must not be given the privilege of freedom from taxation. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, certainly, but not freedom from taxation. Our generation must leave this legacy for our human family. It is only right that the United States should proceed as the role model. Jefferson/Paine Religious Terror Taxation Act is a crucial step in uniting our human family. *
Violent religions bed rocked into words on parchment inked from aeon's ago are the most insidious cancers on this planet today. For they say "love thy neighbor" and in the same breath" take a sword along just in case your neighbor ain't gettin the love thing."

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*I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. (The Holy Bible, Lev 26:16)

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We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise. (The Holy Quran, 4.56:)
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Their will be challenges and the opposition arrogant, founded in the unalterable laws of their God. What is most important is the support of Americas' Founding Fathers and the goodness of right. Thomas Jefferson believed this would be done a long time ago.
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. (Thomas Jefferson, letter to Roger C. Weightman, June 24, 1826 (in the last letter he penned)

*Thomas Paine fought valiantly to end religious bigotry. Susan B. Anthony would be ecstatic, her fight for women suffrage was directly in opposition of Bible text. Abraham Lincoln fought the Bible on slavery as much as he fought the plantation owners.

**"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover, of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor." (The Holy Bible Leviticus 25: 44 -46)
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"Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise." (The Holy Bible Deuteronomy 15:17)
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*"The most heinous and the most cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives." (Mohandas K Gandhi, Young India, July 7, 1950, quoted from Laird Wilcox, ed., "The Degeneration of Belief)

*These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads (The Holy Quran 22.19:)

* Why are we as a nation financially giving favor to this bigotry - this hatred - this war - this separation?

**"The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.It has been the most dishonorable belief against the character of the Divinity, the mostdestructive to morality and the peace and happiness of man, that ever was propagated since man began to exist." (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.From Gorton Carruth and Eugene Ehrlich, eds., The Harper Book of American Quotations, New York: Harper & Row, 1988, p. 494.)

* * *Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. (The Holy Bible, 2Cor 5:11)

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*We are a nation founded on laws. Religious handbooks, in particular The Holy Bible and The Holy Quran violently demand that many of these laws be broken. We in America are promoting terror unequivocally by financially giving favor to the worship of these religious texts. In the Christian Holy Bible and in the Muslim Holy Quran it is demanded to kill the infidel, it is duty. It is demanded to kill lesbian and gays, it is duty. It is demanded that women be oppressed, it is duty.
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"I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties." (Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Danbury Baptists, 1802. ME 16:282)

*We must change this because we are able . We must change this for all the millions of those who would have agreed but were not given the privilege to try. This Great Nation founded by our fore Fathers have given to us ~ today ~ that privilege. For me it is a responsibility, it is my responsibility for all those who would have, but were unable. All those whose blood and ashes, whose screams of anguish are directly a consequence of opposing these texts of abomination.

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It is our duty to do the duty that the President of The United States doesn't give a damn to getting done. The deliverance of damnation from the devil of denial. It is our duty to remove the spit and trampled footprints of arrogance upon the graves of the great men who gave their lives to the flickering of a light that shadowed the liberation of a darkness so desperate I shudder at how we as a people can remain so apathetic to it's tentacles of postulate that within the human - fear and ignorance is the first law of repetition.

We must always speak truth to power and not necessarily politely. I'm not in the mood for a bullet to find my head as I intend to be as outspoken about the The Holy Quran as I am about The Holy Bible. What I am doing here, this blasphemy, according to Gods word, Allah and Jehovah, the Muslim God, the Christian God, is punishable by death. Unequivocally, absolutely, undeniably. With The Holy Quran it's rather simple, my head is simply severed from my body. With The Holy Bible it is a bit more painful. I will state without hesitation, these two religious handbooks, would make a glorious bon-fire and that would be a blessing for our human family. But for now that day has not come and for now all I can do is what I can do and that is rub these two sticks together. * If we profess to fight the War on Terror the least we can do is stop giving financial privilege to the War on Terror ~ right here in our own Mosques and Churches. We must begin bringing thousands of years of Extreme Fundamental Religion to its knees.

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes." (Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813. ME 14:21)

Do I think it can be done?

How about today?

The abuses condoned, advocated, and demanded within religious handbooks, have been as one might say, of holy proportions.